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Where is all of the water coming from?

flooded substrate
Photo credit Jeanne Singhass – flooded substrate

A couple years ago when we created our Facebook group to go along with our website I was shocked to find so many people with flooding issues and bacterial blooms in their crabitats. The response to this was a false bottoms.  In 14 years of crab keeping I’ve never encountered this, so it’s on my mind all the time…where is all the water coming from?

I think I may be on the path to the root cause – overly wet substrate at the beginning.

When you take sandcastle wet sand, add wet ecoearth, add bubbler pools and heat and it’s no wonder the humidity in tank skyrockets and stays there. And it’s no wonder the tank floods, all that excess water has to go somewhere after the substrate becomes completely saturated.

When temperatures fluctuate outside of the tank, condensation can occur. Condensation in the tank is going to end up in the substrate, wetting the ecoearth even more. Ecoearth gets warm when it’s wet, have you noticed that? Hot, soggy tank = disaster.

Prior to my house fire in August 2016 I had my 150 gallon set up and had switched from exclusively using overheat lights to using lights with heat pads. I also put in larger pools and one with a filter, in a segmented section of my tank with Growstone around it. This was to monitor for pool leaks but that never occurred.

Before long I could tell my substrate was getting wetter. Algae was beginning to grow on my cork wall divider a few inches below the surface. My humidity was in range but that was likely because I was still using my overhead light hoods at the time and they burn off a lot of humidity.

After the fire I set up my 150 gallon with dry sand. It wasn’t dusty dry but it was pretty close. I chose to use only one thin layer of dry eco earth and instead added in some coarse chunks of coconut shell. Eco earth was originally added to help the sand retain moisture, now it may be overkill. My decision for my set up was based on @Lisa Dawson ’s flood which was trigger by extreme Australian heat causing her tank to overheat and sweat, then the eco earth got warm and she ended up with a nightmare in her beautiful crabitat. My tank has two LARGE filtered, waterfall pools.

In the photo below you can see how the moisture is creeping down through the layers of sand. I’m sure the sand around the pools is wetter from splashing and minor spills during cleaning.

Red line indicates where the moisture has reached on it's own
Red line indicates where the moisture has reached on it’s own
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The tank has been set up about three months now and successful molts are occurring. My humidity is stable, not climbing over 80% unless we have an unusually warm winter day. I will try to take additional photos in the coming months. I don’t know how long it will take the sand to get saturated at the current rate, hopefully never if my humidity stays controlled. After bringing the lights inside the tank my humidity has dropped to the lower end of the safe range at times. I am thinking of bringing the pools up higher when everyone is above ground so that I can add more sand (miscalculation at set up). I will use dry sand again and that should give me some additional information to work with.

So I’m presenting my suggestions for modifications in our instructions for setting up the substrate for further discussion. Those suggestions are as follows.

  • When setting up your tank don’t add water to the sand. My sand felt dry but in reality had enough moisture to pack right out of the bag.
  • Wet sand should be dried before adding to the tank.  
  • Mix up your eco earth far enough in advance to allow it to dry out completely before mixing into your sand.
  • If you are installing bubbler or filtered pools I don’t think you will ever have to wet the sand. If your humidity comes up to the safe range after a few days, the sand will absorb moisture from the air.
  • If you are using standard pools (deep enough but no bubbler/filter) you might have to lightly mist the top layer of sand to get things going.

Obviously it is much easier to correct a substrate that is too dry than it is to correct a substrate that is too wet. I don’t agree that it is beneficial to the hermit crabs to allow the substrate to become completely saturated.

We have never recommended extremely high humidity. 90%+ humidity coupled with already saturated substrate will result in a tank flood if maintained at that level for too long.

2021 Update: Your local climate will impact how  the set up process works for you. IF, after setting up the tank dry and sealing it up and waiting, your sand is still too dry you can add water in small amounts to dampen it.

If no crabs are underground: Pour a small amount of water around the perimeter of the tank. Close the tank and wait at least 24 hours for the water to leach through the sand. Poke test the sand in various places to see how the water is spreading. Churning the sand will cause it to dry out. Add a bit of water each day until your sand is just wet enough to hold its shape.

If crabs are underground already (this should not be the case if you followed the process but sometimes dry winter air can dry your sand too) you will need to add the water very slowly along the front wall only. Poke tests should only be done along the front wall and very carefully so you don’t poke a molter underground.

Again… it is easier to ADD water than it is to remove it. Go slowly or you will end up with your sand far too wet.

2018 update: The 150 gallon tank has had no issues, many successful molts. My 75 gallon vertical tank was set up using dry sand (not dusty but felt dry to the touch) only in 2017. The sand in this tank is about 16 inches deep. The tiny crabs in this tank are able to dig deep and form caves.

75 gallon vertical tank started with dry sand May 2017
75 gallon vertical tank started with dry sand May 2017
75 gallon vertical tank started with dry sand May 2017
75 gallon vertical tank started with dry sand May 2017

 

2020 Update: In the spring the 150 gallon tank had an ant invasion. When I dug it out I found places near my water pools where the very bottom of the tank was water logged and pack hard, very difficult for me to dig out but no standing water. So it took about four years for water to build up in the substrate to a point of concern.


CSJ has also officially changed it’s stance on mixing moss INTO your substrate, read more about that. 

Note: cross posted on my personal blog (All Things Crabby)as well as our Facebook group to encourage discussion.)

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2017-03-05
In: Crabitat, General
Tagged: bacteria, crabitat, ecoearth, false bottom, flood, hermit crabs, water
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